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	<description>In the midst of life I woke to find myself living in an old house beside Brick Lane in the East End of London</description>
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		By: Lynne Perrella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Perrella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Charlie -- for sharing your life story and your wisdom.   What a gracious man, to observe that he learned everything from customers.   The modesty of that statement was a shining example of his endurance and skill as a story teller.    An impressive gent.  

In the late 1970s, I had the great joy to be an urban pioneer in Lower Manhattan.  Before the trendiness, the foo-foo-fanciness, the gasp-worthy prices, the exalted status.  It was, simply, a neighborhood waiting to be reclaimed and brought back to life.   Perhaps a hold-out from the old Washington Market days (not sure), there was a no-frills fish store in a two-story building on Duane Street.  The accoutrements of the place could NOT have been more simple.  White tile covered every surface, fluorescent lighting blazed, a glass-front display case went from wall-to-wall, and two gentlemen in long white aprons stood behind the counter.   No helpful signage.  Nothing to give a clue about the contents of the case -- one would have to ask.   But, written on a piece of cardboard, was a message: 
&quot;I don&#039;t know.  I don&#039;t want to know.  Don&#039;t ask me.&quot; 
I often had the urge to ask about the sign.  I never did.  As far as I could tell, both gentlemen were helpful, cordial, and sociable.  Perhaps an earlier colleague, a true curmudgeon, had left the sign?   I&#039;ll never know.   So don&#039;t ask me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Charlie &#8212; for sharing your life story and your wisdom.   What a gracious man, to observe that he learned everything from customers.   The modesty of that statement was a shining example of his endurance and skill as a story teller.    An impressive gent.  </p>
<p>In the late 1970s, I had the great joy to be an urban pioneer in Lower Manhattan.  Before the trendiness, the foo-foo-fanciness, the gasp-worthy prices, the exalted status.  It was, simply, a neighborhood waiting to be reclaimed and brought back to life.   Perhaps a hold-out from the old Washington Market days (not sure), there was a no-frills fish store in a two-story building on Duane Street.  The accoutrements of the place could NOT have been more simple.  White tile covered every surface, fluorescent lighting blazed, a glass-front display case went from wall-to-wall, and two gentlemen in long white aprons stood behind the counter.   No helpful signage.  Nothing to give a clue about the contents of the case &#8212; one would have to ask.   But, written on a piece of cardboard, was a message:<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t know.  I don&#8217;t want to know.  Don&#8217;t ask me.&#8221;<br />
I often had the urge to ask about the sign.  I never did.  As far as I could tell, both gentlemen were helpful, cordial, and sociable.  Perhaps an earlier colleague, a true curmudgeon, had left the sign?   I&#8217;ll never know.   So don&#8217;t ask me.</p>
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		By: C Scofield		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C Scofield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lovely piece.   I ate it all up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely piece.   I ate it all up.</p>
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		By: Paul Saint		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Saint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Charlie, my father-in-law, is still going strong at 94 years of age.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, my father-in-law, is still going strong at 94 years of age.</p>
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		By: Angela Hobsbaum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Hobsbaum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved this instalment, especially the photos - and the eel man! My mother used to cook eels, with parsley sauce, 70+ years ago; I never see them now.
But I worry about your proofreading; &#039;yet he could keep&#039; should surely be &#039;yet he couldn&#039;t keep&#039;? 
I enjoy each instalment, but don&#039;t always have time to read them; I regard them as a treat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this instalment, especially the photos &#8211; and the eel man! My mother used to cook eels, with parsley sauce, 70+ years ago; I never see them now.<br />
But I worry about your proofreading; &#8216;yet he could keep&#8217; should surely be &#8216;yet he couldn&#8217;t keep&#8217;?<br />
I enjoy each instalment, but don&#8217;t always have time to read them; I regard them as a treat.</p>
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		By: George Kearse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Kearse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 07:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We learn so much about the people and their length of time in the business...

&quot;forty-nine years in the fish business&quot;

&quot;lobster specialist for fifty-two years&quot;

&quot;twenty-four years at Bard Shellfish&quot;

&quot;fifty-four years in eels &#039;Me dad was an empty boy and I started off in an eel factory.&#039;&quot; an empty boy? I&#039;m guessing the clue is right there in front of us...

&quot;sixty-three years in shellfish &#039;I played football in the 1960 Olympics.&#039;&quot; a gem of a snippet... 

&quot;twelve years at Billingsgate &#039;I am a newcomer.&#039;&quot; newcomer? says it all...

&quot;seventeen years at J.Bennett, Billingsgate’s largest salmon dealers&quot;

&quot;from Lithuania eleven years ago &#039;I couldn’t speak English when I arrived, now my mother would blush to hear my language.&#039; language? very much that &#039;working class coal face language&#039; that we&#039;re cancelled for these days...

&quot;fourth generation fish dealer, thirty-three years at Chamberlain &#038; Thelwell&quot;

&quot;in his first suit at fifteen &#039;From Willoughbys, I paid for it myself at half a crown a week.&#039;&quot; it&#039;s how many of us went about it paying for most everything back then...

&quot;Charlie in his fish shop in the seventies&quot; the three rows of shelved products behind the counter we got served - practical, sensible and conveniently to hand...

The poignant question for me is &quot;who&#039;ll be there out back where the fish market is now throwing fish to the seals from the wharf once this place is torn down? it&#039;s the small stuff that is  overlooked and lost in the midst of this &#039;change for the sake of greed&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We learn so much about the people and their length of time in the business&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;forty-nine years in the fish business&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;lobster specialist for fifty-two years&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;twenty-four years at Bard Shellfish&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;fifty-four years in eels &#8216;Me dad was an empty boy and I started off in an eel factory.'&#8221; an empty boy? I&#8217;m guessing the clue is right there in front of us&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;sixty-three years in shellfish &#8216;I played football in the 1960 Olympics.'&#8221; a gem of a snippet&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;twelve years at Billingsgate &#8216;I am a newcomer.'&#8221; newcomer? says it all&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;seventeen years at J.Bennett, Billingsgate’s largest salmon dealers&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;from Lithuania eleven years ago &#8216;I couldn’t speak English when I arrived, now my mother would blush to hear my language.&#8217; language? very much that &#8216;working class coal face language&#8217; that we&#8217;re cancelled for these days&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;fourth generation fish dealer, thirty-three years at Chamberlain &amp; Thelwell&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;in his first suit at fifteen &#8216;From Willoughbys, I paid for it myself at half a crown a week.'&#8221; it&#8217;s how many of us went about it paying for most everything back then&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Charlie in his fish shop in the seventies&#8221; the three rows of shelved products behind the counter we got served &#8211; practical, sensible and conveniently to hand&#8230;</p>
<p>The poignant question for me is &#8220;who&#8217;ll be there out back where the fish market is now throwing fish to the seals from the wharf once this place is torn down? it&#8217;s the small stuff that is  overlooked and lost in the midst of this &#8216;change for the sake of greed&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Rob Gullen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder how many of the porters etc at Billingsgate remember Henry Dawkins who owned the Billingsgate Overall Service - hiring and laundering most of the white overalls worn in the market when it was in Lower Thames Street.  His shop was in a basement just off Fish Street Hill.

Henry was a family friend for many years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many of the porters etc at Billingsgate remember Henry Dawkins who owned the Billingsgate Overall Service &#8211; hiring and laundering most of the white overalls worn in the market when it was in Lower Thames Street.  His shop was in a basement just off Fish Street Hill.</p>
<p>Henry was a family friend for many years.</p>
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