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		By: Cherub		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My late parents both served during WW2, dad was a Royal Marine and mum a WAAF. My maternal grandfather was gassed in the trenches and died from his subsequent chest problems between the wars. I always put poppies around their photos in my living room at this time of year. Remembrance Sunday was very important to my parents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My late parents both served during WW2, dad was a Royal Marine and mum a WAAF. My maternal grandfather was gassed in the trenches and died from his subsequent chest problems between the wars. I always put poppies around their photos in my living room at this time of year. Remembrance Sunday was very important to my parents.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 10:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember the service of those of Jewish faith, when they are under such pressure currently.]]></description>
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		By: achim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A culture of commemoration is important. Here in Kassel, the 80th anniversary of the bombing of the city took place on 22 October, as well as the commemoration of the November pogroms that began in this city 85 years ago. Holocaust survivor Margot Friedländer, whom I met in Kassel in 2018, has now turned 102.

In Kassel, I visited the Niederzwehren Cemetery several times, which honours the British soldiers of the First World War: https://www.peter-roos.de/militaer/Kriegsgraber/Ndzw_Cemetery/ndzw_cemetery.html

But despite everything: mankind just doesn&#039;t learn, it&#039;s shocking what&#039;s happening in Europe at the moment. And I am simply short of words.

Love &#038; Peace
ACHIM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A culture of commemoration is important. Here in Kassel, the 80th anniversary of the bombing of the city took place on 22 October, as well as the commemoration of the November pogroms that began in this city 85 years ago. Holocaust survivor Margot Friedländer, whom I met in Kassel in 2018, has now turned 102.</p>
<p>In Kassel, I visited the Niederzwehren Cemetery several times, which honours the British soldiers of the First World War: <a href="https://www.peter-roos.de/militaer/Kriegsgraber/Ndzw_Cemetery/ndzw_cemetery.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.peter-roos.de/militaer/Kriegsgraber/Ndzw_Cemetery/ndzw_cemetery.html</a></p>
<p>But despite everything: mankind just doesn&#8217;t learn, it&#8217;s shocking what&#8217;s happening in Europe at the moment. And I am simply short of words.</p>
<p>Love &amp; Peace<br />
ACHIM</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A sobering post. By gosh they were tough times. Survival of the fittest perhaps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sobering post. By gosh they were tough times. Survival of the fittest perhaps.</p>
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		By: Sonia Murray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, GA.  What a beautiful tribute to the fine young men who served their country and were never able to walk back into their homes again.  My father and uncle joined the Navy aged 17 and 18 in 1916 and 1917, and were fortunate to survive.  They and my mother served in ENSA during WWII.   Too many people all over the world died in both World Wars.  Friends lost cousins murdered at Auschwitz, and my husband lost two uncles in the Pacific during WWII.   I remember as a girl, marching to the war memorial to lay a wreath at the bombed church at Margate.... 

Old men who start wars should be taken out and shot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, GA.  What a beautiful tribute to the fine young men who served their country and were never able to walk back into their homes again.  My father and uncle joined the Navy aged 17 and 18 in 1916 and 1917, and were fortunate to survive.  They and my mother served in ENSA during WWII.   Too many people all over the world died in both World Wars.  Friends lost cousins murdered at Auschwitz, and my husband lost two uncles in the Pacific during WWII.   I remember as a girl, marching to the war memorial to lay a wreath at the bombed church at Margate&#8230;. </p>
<p>Old men who start wars should be taken out and shot.</p>
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		By: Di Corry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A wonderful tribute for Remembrance Sunday.
An amazing piece of research......thank you Vicky, GA and Adam for honouring the memories of these men and boys of Spitalfields.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful tribute for Remembrance Sunday.<br />
An amazing piece of research&#8230;&#8230;thank you Vicky, GA and Adam for honouring the memories of these men and boys of Spitalfields.</p>
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		By: Christine Swan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a fantastic piece of research by Vicky and Adam&#039;s maps are very helpful too. Thank you GA for publishing this achievement. I have several family stories from WWI. 

My late mum&#039;s uncle Edgar was a cheerful chap by all accounts. Mum remembered a beautiful doll bought by him and his lovely wife Emma and always remembered visiting them in Forest Gate and playing with her cousins. They were her favourite uncle and aunt. I found great uncle Edgar&#039;s full service record. He was enlisted into the London Regiment and then assigned to the Labour Corps. I found records of his training and posts. One of the tasks that he would have performed was to bury the dead. Uncle Edgar was discharged in 1919 due to being unfit because of dysphoria, written on his record, with a question mark. In a journal I read a definition of dysphoria (related to a WWI veteran diagnosis) as being: &quot;A range of negative emotions including guilt.&quot; He must have witnessed terrible sights and missed his family, burying his brothers in arms. I was so pleased that in later life, he was happy. He worked as a bar manager at the Fox Connaught Inn in Royal Albert Dock, which still exists today.

The other family member who I have a full service record for is William Nelson Sloper, my first cousin, twice removed (I believe) and lived in London Lane, Hackney, with his mother, Elizabeth, father also William, and seven other siblings. By the time he enlisted in 1914, he was the only surviving child and Elizabeth had been widowed. Initially, he only served for four months when, discovering that he had flat feet and was unable to &quot;fall in&quot;, he was discharged. In July 1915, he signed up again with the Middlesex Regiment and it appeared that his flat feet were less of an issue this time. He was posted to the Somme and was presumed to have died in the Battle of Delville Wood, a year to the day he enlisted, in 1916, aged just 23. His mother died in 1920 and sadly never received William&#039;s service medal. Instead, this was sent to his great aunt, Eleanor Crudgington, aka Elena Estelle, the ballet mistress who I have previously written of. 
Both of my grandfathers also served but sadly, it seems that their service records did not survive. Grandad Apthorp proudly displayed a photograph of the Cycle Corps battalion (presumably the 25th London) on the wall of his cafe. Grandad Taylor was orphaned aged 17 and joined the Dorsetshire Regiment. Why he joined the Dorsets while living in Bethnal Green is rather a mystery! He moved between a number of regiments and was posted to India and the Middle East. He trained as a nurse after having received initial training whilst in the army.  I always remember him illustrating, using my knee, how to perform a quick amputation of the lower leg. It seems that this was his speciality during his army years. When anaesthesia was scarce, speed was a desirable trait in a surgeon.  Later, he specialised in autopsy and worked under Sir Bernard Spilsbury. If ever we required a gruesome story, he had far too many to tell. 
I remember their, and their comrades&#039;, service this Remembrance Sunday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic piece of research by Vicky and Adam&#8217;s maps are very helpful too. Thank you GA for publishing this achievement. I have several family stories from WWI. </p>
<p>My late mum&#8217;s uncle Edgar was a cheerful chap by all accounts. Mum remembered a beautiful doll bought by him and his lovely wife Emma and always remembered visiting them in Forest Gate and playing with her cousins. They were her favourite uncle and aunt. I found great uncle Edgar&#8217;s full service record. He was enlisted into the London Regiment and then assigned to the Labour Corps. I found records of his training and posts. One of the tasks that he would have performed was to bury the dead. Uncle Edgar was discharged in 1919 due to being unfit because of dysphoria, written on his record, with a question mark. In a journal I read a definition of dysphoria (related to a WWI veteran diagnosis) as being: &#8220;A range of negative emotions including guilt.&#8221; He must have witnessed terrible sights and missed his family, burying his brothers in arms. I was so pleased that in later life, he was happy. He worked as a bar manager at the Fox Connaught Inn in Royal Albert Dock, which still exists today.</p>
<p>The other family member who I have a full service record for is William Nelson Sloper, my first cousin, twice removed (I believe) and lived in London Lane, Hackney, with his mother, Elizabeth, father also William, and seven other siblings. By the time he enlisted in 1914, he was the only surviving child and Elizabeth had been widowed. Initially, he only served for four months when, discovering that he had flat feet and was unable to &#8220;fall in&#8221;, he was discharged. In July 1915, he signed up again with the Middlesex Regiment and it appeared that his flat feet were less of an issue this time. He was posted to the Somme and was presumed to have died in the Battle of Delville Wood, a year to the day he enlisted, in 1916, aged just 23. His mother died in 1920 and sadly never received William&#8217;s service medal. Instead, this was sent to his great aunt, Eleanor Crudgington, aka Elena Estelle, the ballet mistress who I have previously written of.<br />
Both of my grandfathers also served but sadly, it seems that their service records did not survive. Grandad Apthorp proudly displayed a photograph of the Cycle Corps battalion (presumably the 25th London) on the wall of his cafe. Grandad Taylor was orphaned aged 17 and joined the Dorsetshire Regiment. Why he joined the Dorsets while living in Bethnal Green is rather a mystery! He moved between a number of regiments and was posted to India and the Middle East. He trained as a nurse after having received initial training whilst in the army.  I always remember him illustrating, using my knee, how to perform a quick amputation of the lower leg. It seems that this was his speciality during his army years. When anaesthesia was scarce, speed was a desirable trait in a surgeon.  Later, he specialised in autopsy and worked under Sir Bernard Spilsbury. If ever we required a gruesome story, he had far too many to tell.<br />
I remember their, and their comrades&#8217;, service this Remembrance Sunday.</p>
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		By: Saba		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The use of doors is just brilliant. I could read a short piece and then imagine the person walking through the door. So many died in times gone by, babies, women in childbirth, everybody from diseases now considered curable, and from the military. I am so fortunate to be safe because of the sacrifice of the military. I mourn those who died, death and poverty. Just awful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of doors is just brilliant. I could read a short piece and then imagine the person walking through the door. So many died in times gone by, babies, women in childbirth, everybody from diseases now considered curable, and from the military. I am so fortunate to be safe because of the sacrifice of the military. I mourn those who died, death and poverty. Just awful.</p>
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		By: Lynne Perrella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Perrella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As time goes on, I become more aware of the role that stories play in our lives.  And how stories 
provide some normalcy and humanity.  I noticed in the past couple of days (leading up to our observation of Veteran&#039;s Day here in the US) how many messages/stories/recollections were conveyed amongst my group of friends (Baby Boomers) and how many people recounted their 
military service.  How it affected them, the lifelong friendships, examples of humor or 
trauma, everything from the mundane to the horrifying.  All of this affirmed my belief that stories are literally holding us together.  

Thank you for this post, the doorways, and the stories.  

&quot;Everything is held together with stories.  That is all that is holding us together.  Stories and compassion.&quot; --- Barry Lopez]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As time goes on, I become more aware of the role that stories play in our lives.  And how stories<br />
provide some normalcy and humanity.  I noticed in the past couple of days (leading up to our observation of Veteran&#8217;s Day here in the US) how many messages/stories/recollections were conveyed amongst my group of friends (Baby Boomers) and how many people recounted their<br />
military service.  How it affected them, the lifelong friendships, examples of humor or<br />
trauma, everything from the mundane to the horrifying.  All of this affirmed my belief that stories are literally holding us together.  </p>
<p>Thank you for this post, the doorways, and the stories.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Everything is held together with stories.  That is all that is holding us together.  Stories and compassion.&#8221; &#8212; Barry Lopez</p>
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		By: Jill Wilson		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for such a brilliant tribute to the ordinary Spitalfields men who were caught up in and died in that terrible and seemingly pointless conflict. If only it really had been &quot;the war to end all wars&quot;...

I was recently in a country pub in a small village in Surrey and they had a tribute book telling the stories of all the local men and boys who had died in the First World War and it was tragic seeing how so many families had lost more than one beloved member.

When will we ever learn??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a brilliant tribute to the ordinary Spitalfields men who were caught up in and died in that terrible and seemingly pointless conflict. If only it really had been &#8220;the war to end all wars&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I was recently in a country pub in a small village in Surrey and they had a tribute book telling the stories of all the local men and boys who had died in the First World War and it was tragic seeing how so many families had lost more than one beloved member.</p>
<p>When will we ever learn??</p>
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