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	Comments on: Annie &#038; Nellie Lyons by Horace Warner	</title>
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	<description>In the midst of life I woke to find myself living in an old house beside Brick Lane in the East End of London</description>
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		By: Kel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kel]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ellen must be Nellie.  Says she was born in 1901 in the photo and the moms interview was in 1901 where she has a one month old named Ellen.  The mystery is that her kids dad seems to be totally missing from her life by her interview except to make babies as she has been living with her sister for three years and doesn&#039;t seem too sure where he is , and two of her kids were still infants and she&#039;d go on to have two more.  What a tragic mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen must be Nellie.  Says she was born in 1901 in the photo and the moms interview was in 1901 where she has a one month old named Ellen.  The mystery is that her kids dad seems to be totally missing from her life by her interview except to make babies as she has been living with her sister for three years and doesn&#8217;t seem too sure where he is , and two of her kids were still infants and she&#8217;d go on to have two more.  What a tragic mess.</p>
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		By: Anna Mac Dougall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna Mac Dougall]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did Nellie survive ?]]></description>
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		By: Valerie Coulson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Coulson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 21:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is not either William or Joseph at the window, as it states that William had died, it is recorded in 1901,  and William had passed away by then   and that Joseph is living with Caroline (Annies sister) and her husband Charles Johnson,  I have a slight suspicion that this is Annie herself at the window, if you look closely you can make out hair in a small bun and around her face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not either William or Joseph at the window, as it states that William had died, it is recorded in 1901,  and William had passed away by then   and that Joseph is living with Caroline (Annies sister) and her husband Charles Johnson,  I have a slight suspicion that this is Annie herself at the window, if you look closely you can make out hair in a small bun and around her face.</p>
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		By: Martin Palmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2016 02:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder what is scratched in the paving stone under the blanket?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what is scratched in the paving stone under the blanket?</p>
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		By: MIRIAM DELORIE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MIRIAM DELORIE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2014 17:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Gentle Author, you are doing an absolute amazing thing. For me and so many others you are bring our family nearer to us with your pictures and everything that you do! My father and grandparents lived in Whitechapel and I look forward to your regular updates of the East End. my very best wishes Miriam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Gentle Author, you are doing an absolute amazing thing. For me and so many others you are bring our family nearer to us with your pictures and everything that you do! My father and grandparents lived in Whitechapel and I look forward to your regular updates of the East End. my very best wishes Miriam</p>
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		By: Susan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vicky - thanks for your comments. People really did live in appalling conditions. An article from the Daily Mail on these photos states:

 &quot;On these streets and alleys, hordes of urchins eked out a hand-to-mouth existence, fending for themselves while their parents worked 14-hour days in the factories and docks...Infant mortality was higher in 1900 than in 1800, as increasing numbers of families sought work in the cities. In the East End, nearly 20 per cent of children died before their first birthday. Poor families lived ten to a room with no clean water for washing and drinking... Dead animals littered the streets. Excrement and rubbish often blocked the drains. Diseases such as diphtheria, cholera and measles flourished...A third of households were without a male breadwinner and women were forced to go out to work, leaving children as young as six to look after their younger siblings...Older children ran errands, swept the streets, cleaned windows or helped to make matchboxes and paintbrushes. It was poorly paid, exhausting work, especially for malnourished children, but their contribution — small as it was — could help buy a little stale bread. According to Erica Davies, director of the Ragged School Museum in East London: ‘These children tried very hard to survive while facing overwhelming odds.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017054/Britains-Slumdogs-The-ragged-filthy-East-London-children-just-100-years-ago-living-life-grime.html

I am sure their mothers (and fathers, when they were around) were also malnourished and exhausted.

I also agree that it would be wonderful to have this lecture on video! (I&#039;m in Canada too).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicky &#8211; thanks for your comments. People really did live in appalling conditions. An article from the Daily Mail on these photos states:</p>
<p> &#8220;On these streets and alleys, hordes of urchins eked out a hand-to-mouth existence, fending for themselves while their parents worked 14-hour days in the factories and docks&#8230;Infant mortality was higher in 1900 than in 1800, as increasing numbers of families sought work in the cities. In the East End, nearly 20 per cent of children died before their first birthday. Poor families lived ten to a room with no clean water for washing and drinking&#8230; Dead animals littered the streets. Excrement and rubbish often blocked the drains. Diseases such as diphtheria, cholera and measles flourished&#8230;A third of households were without a male breadwinner and women were forced to go out to work, leaving children as young as six to look after their younger siblings&#8230;Older children ran errands, swept the streets, cleaned windows or helped to make matchboxes and paintbrushes. It was poorly paid, exhausting work, especially for malnourished children, but their contribution — small as it was — could help buy a little stale bread. According to Erica Davies, director of the Ragged School Museum in East London: ‘These children tried very hard to survive while facing overwhelming odds.’</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017054/Britains-Slumdogs-The-ragged-filthy-East-London-children-just-100-years-ago-living-life-grime.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017054/Britains-Slumdogs-The-ragged-filthy-East-London-children-just-100-years-ago-living-life-grime.html</a></p>
<p>I am sure their mothers (and fathers, when they were around) were also malnourished and exhausted.</p>
<p>I also agree that it would be wonderful to have this lecture on video! (I&#8217;m in Canada too).</p>
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		By: Pauline Taylor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pauline Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Vicky&#039;s answer to Linda.  These poor mothers deserve our sympathy,  their lives must have been miserable beyond belief,  no contraception resulting in far too many children,  terrible infant mortality,  very limited access to water of any kind let alone clean drinking water,  lavatories shared by many other families,  and all the other horrors that went with this sort of deprivation.  To me it is a miracle and a great credit to the mothers that any of these children survived at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Vicky&#8217;s answer to Linda.  These poor mothers deserve our sympathy,  their lives must have been miserable beyond belief,  no contraception resulting in far too many children,  terrible infant mortality,  very limited access to water of any kind let alone clean drinking water,  lavatories shared by many other families,  and all the other horrors that went with this sort of deprivation.  To me it is a miracle and a great credit to the mothers that any of these children survived at all.</p>
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		By: Roger Carr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Carr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great find, and amazing that this body of work went unnoticed for so long. Quite a beautifully produced book. Nice to see kids rolling around in dirt . . . and seemingly,no worse off for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great find, and amazing that this body of work went unnoticed for so long. Quite a beautifully produced book. Nice to see kids rolling around in dirt . . . and seemingly,no worse off for it.</p>
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		By: Vicky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vicky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This picture of baby Nellie and protective sister Annie touches me most out of all the pictures in the book. Annie has tied some beads around Nellie&#039;s neck to make her look lovely whilst her own hair has been tied in a top knot, no doubt by their caring mother. 

To answer Linda - access to water was extremely difficult in areas such as this where large families living in very overcrowded conditions, often up to twelve in one room, in multi occupancy houses, shared one tap in the common courtyard. The air and everything they touched was was thick with coal dust and other heavy pollutants making keeping clean almost impossible. Finding enough money for food to feed the family and pay the rent was mother&#039;s priority. That they survived at all is a miracle, and some didn&#039;t, women could die of exhaustion, and men could as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This picture of baby Nellie and protective sister Annie touches me most out of all the pictures in the book. Annie has tied some beads around Nellie&#8217;s neck to make her look lovely whilst her own hair has been tied in a top knot, no doubt by their caring mother. </p>
<p>To answer Linda &#8211; access to water was extremely difficult in areas such as this where large families living in very overcrowded conditions, often up to twelve in one room, in multi occupancy houses, shared one tap in the common courtyard. The air and everything they touched was was thick with coal dust and other heavy pollutants making keeping clean almost impossible. Finding enough money for food to feed the family and pay the rent was mother&#8217;s priority. That they survived at all is a miracle, and some didn&#8217;t, women could die of exhaustion, and men could as well.</p>
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		By: Barbara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have a great evening . Well done for getting all this together !  Who knows what you are going to unearth next ???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a great evening . Well done for getting all this together !  Who knows what you are going to unearth next ???</p>
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